2016.03.04 Community Chat

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[13:59:41] <ChatBot> KA-BOOOM!!!
[13:59:48] <Astromon> hey lfp6
[14:00:15] <Astromon> it started on timE!!!
[14:00:24] <LFP6> Indeed
[14:00:35] <Astromon> did you have a hand in that?
[14:00:36] <LFP6> As Hoglahoo so elegantly put it next week
[14:00:39] <LFP6> The bot got a new watch
[14:00:45] <Astromon> oH haha
[14:00:46] <LFP6> No, I did not
[14:00:52] <LFP6> *last week
[14:00:58] <LFP6> What am I talking about? Geex
[14:01:02] <LFP6> *geez &gt;.&lt;
[14:01:13] <Astromon> the watch got syncronized properly heheh
[14:01:35] <LFP6> Or that
[14:01:38] <Astromon> haha you must be traveling to the future secretly
[14:02:27] <Astromon> hows everyones week been?
[14:02:46] <LFP6> Not bad, not bad
[14:02:49] <Astromon> went by fast again&lt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
[14:02:58] <LFP6> You know if we have anyone leading the chat today?
[14:03:07] <Astromon> sure dont
[14:03:15] <Astromon> its a playerled chat though
[14:03:35] <Astromon> grab the helm captian Lfp6!
[14:04:45] <Astromon> i would like to anouce The meetings to plan Eternacon 2016 are on Wednesdays at 12PAC
[14:05:16] <LFP6> That's the only big thing I know of going on
[14:05:34] <Astromon> for now and if anyone needs another time pm jennifer-pearl and let her know the best times for you .
[14:05:54] <plugandplay> Can we save the game?
[14:06:13] <LFP6> It autosaves
[14:06:17] <Astromon> you can copy your sequences
[14:06:23] <LFP6> That too
[14:06:34] <Astromon> and paste then in notpad er something also
[14:06:41] <plugandplay> ...and paste. Ok thanks
[14:06:49] <Astromon> i do that with the labs
[14:07:09] <Astromon> sure
[14:07:42] <Astromon> Welcome to eterna Plug and thanks for joining the weekly DEV-Player-chat!
[14:07:55] <macclark52> Will the presentations at EternaCom be online again this year?
[14:08:21] <Astromon> I say so&lt;&lt;
[14:08:27] <plugandplay> Thank you. Glad to partecipate.
[14:08:31] <Astromon> I'd*
[14:08:44] <macclark52> I couldn't go to Stanford last year, but loved seeing the presentations.
[14:08:47] <Astromon> hi mac nice to see you!
[14:08:57] <macclark52> Hi, Astro. :-)
[14:09:07] <macclark52> I don't have a faculty meeting this afternoon for a change!
[14:09:08] <Astromon> yeah me too maybe better audeo this time around&lt;&gt;
[14:09:21] <Astromon> nice&lt;&gt;
[14:09:28] <calebgeniesse> hey guys
[14:09:36] <LFP6> It was great to be able to go last year, but sadly I most likely won't be able to this time around. Will definitely be tuning in though!
[14:09:39] <LFP6> Hey caleb!
[14:09:41] <Astromon> Hi Caleb
[14:09:45] <macclark52> Hi, Caleb
[14:10:02] <calebgeniesse> i'm technically busy right now, but wanted to stop by
[14:10:06] <calebgeniesse> hows everyone doing
[14:10:09] <LFP6> He Astro, we just need to always actually use the mics!
[14:10:14] <joy45> Hi everyone.
[14:10:24] <LFP6> Pretty well, yourself?
[14:10:31] <macclark52> Yes, using the mics probably helps.
[14:10:32] <Astromon> im trying to gather ideas from the comunity on things to fill time slots
[14:10:35] <macclark52> Hi, Joy.
[14:10:51] <LFP6> Family Fued instead of Jepordy this time? :)
[14:10:55] <LFP6> idk
[14:11:03] <LFP6> Hello joy
[14:11:08] <Jennifer-Pearl> hi
[14:11:10] <Astromon> if anyone has any ideas please pm me&lt;&lt;&lt;
[14:11:12] <calebgeniesse> thanks Astromon!
[14:11:20] <LFP6> Hey Jen
[14:11:29] <Astromon> hi jen
[14:11:31] <macclark52> Is data from the RNA in -RNA out labs ever going to be released?
[14:11:50] <Jennifer-Pearl> I was wondering the same thing
[14:12:03] <macclark52> I'd love for my students to be able to see how their designs worked.
[14:12:04] <Astromon> what round is that?
[14:12:09] <Jennifer-Pearl> I dont have anything planned for this chat session
[14:12:13] <Astromon> 99?
[14:12:22] <Jennifer-Pearl> hi Everyone
[14:12:38] <Jennifer-Pearl> I am very hungry so until I eat I wil be very slow to reply
[14:12:53] <macclark52> Have a cookie.
[14:13:10] <Astromon> i was looking at some founders players test scores and some were still waiting on synthesis
[14:13:27] <macclark52> I don't remember. Let me look at the Archive.
[14:13:28] <hoglahoo> those might be old player projects
[14:13:34] <Astromon> like waiting a lonG time haha
[14:13:40] <Astromon> oH
[14:13:45] <Astromon> i c
[14:15:00] <macclark52> Oh, it says results HAVE been posted!
[14:15:03] <macclark52> Yay.
[14:15:12] <macclark52> Glad I checked.
[14:15:34] <Astromon> i was thinking @Caleb since you have to change the "go back to lab bench" link maybe you could put a little notafication flag up there as well
[14:16:06] <Astromon> so i can see faster when someone has pmed me&lt;&lt;
[14:16:25] <Astromon> if at all possible and plausable&lt;&gt; :)
[14:16:46] <Astromon> oH great mac gl to all your students!
[14:16:50] <hoglahoo> I'd cast a vote against that if it slows puzzle loading and/or puzzlesolving down
[14:17:06] <Astromon> I would too hog&lt;&lt;
[14:17:14] <hoglahoo> since it's already kinda sluggish :(
[14:17:39] <Jennifer-Pearl> I do have some info that I I would like to put in a moment about Eternacon
[14:17:52] <calebgeniesse> @Astromon: possibly! that would be pretty cool... i'll look into it when i update the link
[14:18:17] <Jennifer-Pearl> and then I will let you all do what you are doing since It seams productive
[14:18:19] <calebgeniesse> @hoglahoo good point.. might not be worth it
[14:18:36] <Astromon> thsnks...yeah as long as it wouldnt slow things down any&lt;&gt;
[14:19:20] <hoglahoo> man I'm so sleepy
[14:19:50] <Jennifer-Pearl> me to. This is the end of my fisrt day back to work after 2 months off
[14:19:53] <Astromon> was you up late solving puzzles again
[14:19:53] <hoglahoo> that post-lunch afternoon sleepbrain
[14:20:05] <Jennifer-Pearl> first week
[14:20:08] <hoglahoo> back to the old grind, congrats :)
[14:20:12] <Jennifer-Pearl> thanks
[14:20:19] <Jennifer-Pearl> great job lots of stuff
[14:20:38] <Jennifer-Pearl> excellent benifiets
[14:20:49] <macclark52> Hey that is exciting. Kids will be thrilled.
[14:21:40] <macclark52> Good for you, Jen!
[14:21:52] <Jennifer-Pearl> So I would like to say that we have a theme for this years Eternacon. It is a little long as Caleb had mentioned but I think it hits on teh essence of Eterna now
[14:22:05] <Jennifer-Pearl> "RNA in medicine and empowering citizen scientists to invent medicine through Eterna"
[14:22:30] <Astromon> nice!
[14:22:33] <Jennifer-Pearl> im making this my little impromtu foucs group
[14:22:37] <Jennifer-Pearl> what do you all think
[14:22:38] <LFP6> Btw I'm updating the wiki now
[14:22:43] <LFP6> I'll add that :)
[14:22:46] <Astromon> i feel empowered alreadY!&lt;&lt;
[14:22:47] <LFP6> I do like it
[14:22:47] <Jennifer-Pearl> cool
[14:22:54] <macclark52> Very empowered! :-)
[14:22:58] <joy45> I like it!
[14:23:03] <Jennifer-Pearl> great
[14:23:15] <Jennifer-Pearl> we can fit alot of stuff under that theme
[14:23:32] <macclark52> I hope this kind of activity will bring more people into pursuing science.
[14:23:37] <LFP6> @caleb On the notification thing, I see no reason why it can't be lumped in with the communication that's already happening with the server, I know it exists and the impact should be tiny adding a field like that
[14:24:07] <Jennifer-Pearl> LFP6 is working on the Eternacon wiki right now so that should be live soon for everyone to reference for updates.
[14:24:15] <Jennifer-Pearl> will put out a news item I think
[14:24:33] <LFP6> @Hoglahoo: How long have you found puzzles to be sliggish btw? Or just a general normal EetRNA thing?
[14:24:35] <Astromon> cool
[14:24:50] <Astromon> with nupak it is
[14:25:07] <Astromon> and the sumitting takes a few seconds too long
[14:25:07] <hoglahoo> @LFP6, since a long, long time
[14:25:12] <LFP6> Ok
[14:25:17] <LFP6> So, yeah\
[14:25:42] <Jennifer-Pearl> Also I plan on puttingout the time and date of eternacon durring devchats.
[14:25:48] <Jennifer-Pearl> So a reminder to all....
[14:25:49] <Jennifer-Pearl> It will be Saturday and Sunday, July 16th and 17th at Stanford University in the Li Ka Shing Learning and Knowledge Center, Room LK120.
[14:25:52] <LFP6> @Jennifer What is the capitalization for eternacon? eternacon, Eternacon, EteRNAcon, EteRNACon?
[14:26:15] <Jennifer-Pearl> Ive just been doign Eternacon2016 for now
[14:26:17] <Astromon> i like EteRNAcon
[14:26:47] <Jennifer-Pearl> I think that the name quasi offically changed from EteRNA to Eterna
[14:26:48] <Astromon> EteRNAcon2016*
[14:26:58] <Jennifer-Pearl> site name
[14:27:10] <LFP6> I don't remember what the outcome of that discussion was
[14:27:29] <Jennifer-Pearl> I say a note somewhere pointing out the change
[14:27:34] <LFP6> Or what about EternaCon?
[14:27:35] <Jennifer-Pearl> dont rememebr where.
[14:27:40] <Astromon> yeah i never knew why the RNA should be captipalized in my opinion
[14:27:44] <Jennifer-Pearl> I like that
[14:27:47] <LFP6> Because it's an acronym :)
[14:27:56] <Astromon> since its all about RNA
[14:27:59] <LFP6> Ok, should I go with that then?
[14:28:06] <LFP6> EternaCon?
[14:28:20] <Jennifer-Pearl> I like EternaCon for right now
[14:28:24] <LFP6> Or Eterna-Con? :P
[14:28:25] <Jennifer-Pearl> EternaCon2016
[14:28:31] <hoglahoo> it was both EteRNACon and Eternacon last year
[14:28:32] <Jennifer-Pearl> hum
[14:28:33] <macclark52> Good enough. :-)
[14:28:40] <Jennifer-Pearl> that is a good question
[14:29:12] <LFP6> I'm going to drop the year if that's ok, or if I'm referencing this year's it will be EternaCon 2016
[14:29:15] <Astromon> how about ETERNACOn
[14:29:19] <Jennifer-Pearl> ok
[14:29:23] <Jennifer-Pearl> lol
[14:29:26] <LFP6> Oh geex no
[14:29:32] <LFP6> *geez
[14:29:41] <Astromon> keep the year they may think its old news
[14:29:43] <hoglahoo> someone go look at what your badge said last year
[14:29:55] <LFP6> That's an ide
[14:30:09] <LFP6> Eternacon
[14:30:20] <LFP6> Maybe we should stick with that then...
[14:30:21] <LFP6> IDK
[14:30:42] <LFP6> Also ETERNACON
[14:30:48] <Jennifer-Pearl> it says eternacon
[14:30:50] <LFP6> and eternacon
[14:30:58] <Astromon> put the rna colors in each letter!
[14:30:59] <Jennifer-Pearl> with rna white
[14:31:07] <LFP6> The hover description is Eternacon
[14:31:12] <Astromon> that would draw attention&lt;&gt;
[14:31:15] <hoglahoo> so just like the rest of eterna, there's not really one standard way :)
[14:31:16] <Jennifer-Pearl> and ete in blue and con in grey
[14:31:20] <Jennifer-Pearl> i have my badge in my backpack
[14:31:27] <Jennifer-Pearl> kinda amotivator at times
[14:31:40] <LFP6> Well the all caps on the badge makes sense, it's a font/title thing
[14:31:53] <LFP6> Oh, I'm looking at the profile badge lol
[14:32:07] <LFP6> The actual logo will be used
[14:32:18] <LFP6> But I need to know capitalization to use elsewhere
[14:32:50] <hoglahoo> speaking of inconsistencies, there's a (perhaps newly discovered) issue with the new playthrough: Access to the puzzlemaker button on the player puzzles page is currently granted at 20,000 points, but the player puzzles item in the resources menu is not unlocked at 20,000 points.
[14:33:08] <hoglahoo> to quote a player earlier today, "billyon: wtf its locked"
[14:33:25] <LFP6> I think that was mentioned in the feedback post
[14:33:32] <LFP6> Or somewhere
[14:33:32] <Jennifer-Pearl> lets not fret about the name yet. Lets jsut go with Eternacon for now and will bring that up and try to resolve that next couple weeks
[14:33:36] <hoglahoo> ah, cool. I did not see that
[14:33:39] <LFP6> But that should be adjusted
[14:33:58] <LFP6> @Jen Yeah, I'll do that
[14:34:22] <Jennifer-Pearl> Would like to be on same page at Rhiju and the rest of the site
[14:34:25] <hoglahoo> The other thing I wanted to reiterate in devchat today is that the "next puzzle" button being sat at an absolute height that is too low for many computer displays is a *very* common complaint from new players, who do not see a clear way forward

* Note: Unknown to me, this was addressed here the day before: https://getsatisfaction.com/eternagame/topics/eterna-medicine-puzzle-progression-interface-feedback?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=new_comment&utm_content=reply_button&reply[id]=16672547#reply_16672547 - hoglahoo *

[14:34:27] <Jennifer-Pearl> as Rhiju
[14:34:44] <Jennifer-Pearl> i have that too still
[14:34:48] <hoglahoo> A related issue is that there's also no clear way forward for players who are stuck in a puzzle in the progression.
[14:34:49] <Jennifer-Pearl> @hog
[14:34:57] <hoglahoo> But that's a tougher nut to crack I suspect
[14:35:13] <Jennifer-Pearl> @caleb you here still?
[14:35:26] <LFP6> @Hog: That I know was mentioned in the feedback psot, Ben is looking into it
[14:35:34] <Astromon> yeaH im seeing alot of comments about those issues also from alot of players
[14:35:41] <LFP6> On the positioning of the button
[14:35:46] <Jennifer-Pearl> @hog are issues getting fixed or is there a bit of a delay. just curious
[14:35:53] <hoglahoo> yeah I know that one has been mentioned many times. I'm mentioning it again because I feel it's high priority from my perspective
[14:36:01] <LFP6> Indeed
[14:36:07] <hoglahoo> yeah caleb has fixed a lot of things actually
[14:36:09] <Astromon> yes very high
[14:36:17] <Jennifer-Pearl> cool
[14:36:31] <hoglahoo> I'd tip him, but I can't find the tip jar
[14:36:34] <Jennifer-Pearl> was wondering if we need more visibliilty on certain issues
[14:36:39] <hoglahoo> and I'm saving my pennies for eternacon
[14:36:40] <Astromon> haha
[14:36:55] <Jennifer-Pearl> like a tracker vrs just posting things
[14:36:59] <Astromon> Eternacon*
[14:37:11] <macclark52> It does hang up sometimes in a magnified view.
[14:37:12] <hoglahoo> well, I don't really keep up with it very well, I just want to yell about that particular issue since there's a podium here at the moment
[14:38:10] <Jennifer-Pearl> ok
[14:38:28] <Jennifer-Pearl> @hog can you post the transcript of this chat at 1pm
[14:38:47] <Jennifer-Pearl> i will have to run right at 1
[14:38:51] <LFP6> @Jen: That's what the forums are supposed to do :P
[14:38:55] <hoglahoo> I can at some point this afternoon
[14:39:15] <LFP6> There is a tag for high priority issues
[14:39:16] <Jennifer-Pearl> cool thanks
[14:39:27] <Jennifer-Pearl> @LFP6 I forgot
[14:39:37] <LFP6> Granted, the devs like to keep only one topic for large releases like this
[14:39:38] <hoglahoo> LFP6 would you mind tagging all the issues I think are high priority, and untag the others? :)
[14:39:45] <LFP6> lol
[14:40:09] <LFP6> Not even used at this point
[14:40:28] <LFP6> I really need to finish doing some work on the forums and talk to the devs about using that more...
[14:40:45] <Jennifer-Pearl> your a busy person
[14:40:53] <Astromon> http://prntscr.com/ab8w62
[14:40:58] <MatrixGamer73> they are indeed!
[14:42:07] <Astromon> hi matrix welcome to EteRNA!
[14:42:28] <macclark52> Hi, Matrix?
[14:43:15] <Jennifer-Pearl> hi Matrix
[14:43:18] <macclark52> Sorry, ? not intended.
[14:44:36] <RedSpah> hi all
[14:44:43] <Jennifer-Pearl> Hi Red
[14:44:52] <Astromon> hi Red
[14:45:16] <RedSpah> Hi Jen, Astro
[14:45:24] <Jennifer-Pearl> so does anyone have anything they would like to bring up
[14:45:29] <Jennifer-Pearl> in the last 15 min
[14:45:41] <syang> hi everyone
[14:45:46] <Jennifer-Pearl> hi syang
[14:45:54] <Astromon> hi syang
[14:46:10] <syang> I've been missing the last few devchats
[14:46:18] <RedSpah> anyone got something interesting to do
[14:46:18] <Jennifer-Pearl> since there are so many more poeple that just showed up I will post teh eternacon data and time again from the news
[14:46:31] <macclark52> Hi, Red.
[14:46:33] <Jennifer-Pearl> Hello Eterna Community!We are happy to announce that the time and place for Eternacon2016 has been set. It will be Saturday and Sunday, July 16th and 17th at Stanford University in the Li Ka Shing Learning and Knowledge Center, Room LK120. We have the room all day both days so we figure start at 8am and stop around 5ish (not set in stone). This is the same location as last year as w
[14:47:19] <hoglahoo> "as last year as w...."
[14:47:39] <RedSpah> affirmative
[14:47:39] <hoglahoo> hi syang, Red
[14:47:40] <Jennifer-Pearl> should have a comma in ther
[14:47:45] <syang> hi hog
[14:47:50] <Jennifer-Pearl> last year, as well as
[14:47:54] <RedSpah> hi hog
[14:48:08] <hoglahoo> as well as what - it looks cutoff at the w from here
[14:48:15] <hoglahoo> I guess I can just go read the news item
[14:48:19] <Jennifer-Pearl> i t shows up on mine
[14:48:26] <hoglahoo> I think that's because you posted it :D
[14:48:28] <Jennifer-Pearl> im in caht windows
[14:48:35] <Astromon> meetings to plan the event for now are on Wednesdays at 12pm PAC time
[14:48:45] <hoglahoo> thanks
[14:49:06] <Jennifer-Pearl> here is a repost then
[14:49:13] <Jennifer-Pearl> Hello Eterna Community!We are happy to announce that the time and place for Eternacon2016 has been set. It will be Saturday and Sunday, July 16th and 17th at Stanford University in the Li Ka Shing Learning and Knowledge Center, Room LK120. We have the room all day both days so we figure start at 8am and stop around 5ish (not set in stone). This is the same location as last year as w
[14:49:22] <Jennifer-Pearl> as roughly the same time period. If you know you are able to make it please RSVP as early as possible by sending us an email at eternacon2016@gmail.com. We would like to get a rough headcount by next month to get the catering right. We should be putting out a survey or something soon. We hope to see a lot of people there! If you need assistance with traveling please send us an email
[14:49:24] <Astromon> as W?
[14:49:42] <Astromon> (joshing jen) heheh
[14:49:54] <hoglahoo> it's a technical character cutoff built into the irc protocol
[14:49:55] <Jennifer-Pearl> at eternacon2016@gmail.com. We would like to get a rough headcount by next month to get the catering right. We should be putting out a survey or something soon. We hope to see a lot of people there! If you need assistance with traveling please send us an email as well. Please visit the Eternacon2016 GetSat post for more information: https://getsatisfaction.com/eternagame/topics/time
[14:50:24] <Jennifer-Pearl> makes sense to prevent novels from being posted
[14:50:38] <macclark52> Eterna: The Novel.
[14:50:46] <syang> that's really cool! :D Are you organizing it Jen?
[14:50:52] <macclark52> Soon to be a major miniseries.
[14:50:56] <Jennifer-Pearl> @syang yes i am
[14:51:07] <Jennifer-Pearl> i formed a committee to plan events
[14:51:18] <syang> cool
[14:51:23] <Jennifer-Pearl> we meet every wednesday right now on eterna chat at 12pm PST
[14:51:28] <Jennifer-Pearl> everyone is welcome to join
[14:54:36] <Jennifer-Pearl> We are looking for ideas and people to present them so if you are interested or have any ideas let Astro know. He is compiling ideas for next meeting
[14:55:18] <Astromon> yeaH privaye nessage me or just holler at me in chat!
[14:55:27] <Astromon> private*
[14:55:28] <macclark52> Good deal.
[14:55:41] <syang> thanks!
[14:55:46] <Jennifer-Pearl> np
[14:56:04] <Astromon> private message**
[14:56:09] <Astromon> :D
[14:56:31] <Jennifer-Pearl> @macclarck just saw your comment about the novel... lol
[14:56:39] <macclark52> :-)
[14:56:55] <Astromon> yeah good one mac !
[14:57:08] <Astromon> maybe we will have to write it someday&lt;&gt;
[14:57:45] <Astromon> oncE we cure CANCER wOOt!
[14:57:48] <macclark52> Pretty exciting story so far.
[14:58:07] <Jennifer-Pearl> well first detect TB then cure Cancer.
[14:58:15] <Jennifer-Pearl> small stuff
[14:58:28] <Astromon> sounds great !
[14:59:14] <Jennifer-Pearl> Well I need to head out
[14:59:32] <Astromon> have a good one jen seeya!
[14:59:40] <macclark52> Thanks, Jennifer.
[14:59:44] <Jennifer-Pearl> was a good player devchat

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